, there have been several of those, although, as we saw from lifelock, not all of them going the way the companies had wished. >> no, it's interesting, this company that's becoming public, it is a terrific household name. they make a lot of plastics that we all use, hard plastics is really their major initiative. plastic uses a lot of natural gas, which means that the margins should be going up. nobody cares. >> yeah, it priced below the range. bery is the ticker. it debuts here on the stock exchange. meantime, hewlett-packard, hitting another new low, down 1.5%. we didn't get a chance to really dissect ms. whitman's interview. what did you think? >> 320,000 employees, david cuts right to the matter. maybe there should be 220,000 employees. obviously, there were no questions that were substantively answered. that's okay. romney doesn't answer substantive questions. obama doesn't answer substantive questions. whitman doesn't answer substantive questions. i get that. three politicians, three answers that you don't really get to challenge them. >> the difference is we see the impact imm
